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Greek, Turkish navy ships almost collide

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Fri Oct 24 08:35:46 1997
>Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:34:16 -0700
>From: Mike Potter
>Organization: Artecon, Inc.
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>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: Greek, Turkish navy ships almost collide
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>Greek, Turkish navy ships almost collide
>________________________________________________________________________
> Copyright © 1997 Nando.net
> Copyright © 1997 Reuters
>
>ATHENS (October 23, 1997 6:40 p.m. EDT http://www.nando.net) – The
>long-time Greek-Turkish rivalry in the Aegean Sea took another course on
>Thursday with reports that naval ships from the two countries had been
>in a near collision.
>
>Both countries accused the other of causing the incident, which occurred
>Wednesday in international waters between the two Greek islands of Chios
>and Lesbos.
>
>Defense Ministry officials in Athens said a Greek navy minesweeper
>brushed against a Turkish patrol boat, the result of “dangerous handling
>by the Turkish captain.”
>
>In Turkey, the state-run Anatolian news agency said a Greek minesweeper
>tried to pass over a semi-submerged Turkish submarine.
>
>The agency quoted Turkish chief of staff Ismail Hakki Karadayi as saying
>the action of the Greek ship was an example of “a hostile attitude.”
>There were no injuries, it said.
>
>The near collision was the latest in a series of incidents between
>Greece and Turkey, which are at odds over both Cyprus and the
>sovereignty of various small islands in the Aegean.
>
>Athens has accused Ankara of numerous violations of its air space
>coinciding with Greece-Cyprus war games on the divided island.
>
>It said Turkish planes twice buzzed a transport plane carrying Greek
>Defence Minister Akis Tsohatzopoulos to and from the Cyprus military
>exercises.
>
>Greece lashed out at the United States this week for not condemning
>Turkey for the Tsohatsopoulos incident. Washington said late on
>Wednesday that it had raised the issue with Ankara.
>
>-= END OF MESSAGE =-

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Offered without comment

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Fri Oct 24 12:25:46 1997
>X-Sender: tcrobi@pophost.fw.hac.com
>Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:24:27 -0500
>To: mahan@microwrks.com
>From: Tom Robison
>Subject: Offered without comment
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>
>The following is quoted verbatim from the December 1997 _Naval_History_
>Magazine:
>=====
>
>WAKE ISLAND TO BECOME WASTE DUMP?
>by Commander David Gaddis, USNR
>
>Is Wake Island, site of one of the greatest battles in the history of the
>U.S. Marine Corps, destined to become a storage place for spent nuclear
>fuel and nuclear fissile material?
>
>Plans are underway by three companies — International Fuel Containers,
>U.S. Fuel & Security (USF&S), and Nuclear Disarmament Services — to use
>the lagoon at Wake Island for indefinite storage of thousands of 120-ton
>steel drums full of nuclear material from around the world (though
>primarily from the United States and Russia). Retired U.S. Navy Admiral
>Daniel J. Murphy has been selected as chairman and chief executive officer
>of the three companies, and retired U.S. Marine Corps General P.X. Kelly
>also is a board member. Russian Minister of Atomic Energy Dr. Viktor
>Michailov reportedly agreed to a “joint venture partnership” in 1996 for a
>large part of the former Soviet Union’s nuclear waste to go to Wake.
>
>At an introductory meeting on 26 July 1996, Admiral Murphy, other company
>officials, and two U.S. State Department officials were in attendance.
>USF&S laid out a plan to form a “Wake Island Defenders Memorial Fund” to
>take legal custody of Wake atoll from the Air Force as a C-3 charity; the
>fund, in turn, would lease the lagoon to the company for use as a nuclear
>waste storage facility, in perpetuity. Compensated board members would
>manage the enterprise and form a trust fund for U.S. veterans. In addition
>to General Kelly and Admiral Murphy, the board would include Alex Copson,
>founder of the venture.
>
>Based on the island’s capacity to hold at least 40,000 ten-ton containers
>in the lagoon, USF&S secretery Andrew Antippas estimated the venture could
>provide $4-billion over 40 years to the proposed veterans’ trust fund.
>Revenues from the above contributions would be used to augment federal
>veteran benefits, according to Antippas, and the board would “decide these
>priorities and tasks” for distribution of the funds to veterans.
>
>The nuclear waste would be shipped to Wake by 20 ships built for the
>purpose by Trinity Marine in Gulfport, Mississippi. These ships — moving
>material to Wake from around the world — would allow the three companies
>to tap into the estimated $120-billion spent-fuel business worldwide.
>According to one estimate, $9-billion in start-up costs and yearly
>operating costs of $1-billion could make the company worth as much as
>$11-billion once the plan is authorized by law.
>
>Will this plan — to start a colossal joint venture that would ship
>hundreds of tons of nuclear waste to the Wake Island lagoon — be executed?
>If so, it could make a strange bedfellow to preservation of the islands,
>which the group claims to support. Apparently there is great pressure from
>Russia to get the legislation passed by Congress in 1997, because other
>agreements have been made to dispose of the waste, one of which may involve
>Iran.
>
>=====
>End of quoted article.
>
>
>Tom Robison, tcrobi@most.fw.hac.com
>Airborne Communications Systems
>Hughes Defense Communications,
>1010 Production Rd.
>Fort Wayne, IN 46808
>
>Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone, and do not reflect
>the views or opinions of Hughes Defense Communications, Hughes
>Aircraft Corp., Hughes Electronics Corp., General Motors Corp.,
>Raytheon Corp., my wife, or God.

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Further minor updates on the US Navy pages

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Fri Oct 24 13:47:29 1997
>Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:59:34 +0200
>To: mahan@microwrks.com, wwii-l@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu, >marhst-l@post.queensu.ca
>Subject: Further minor updates on the US Navy pages
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>From: BWV_WIESBADEN@t-online.de (Tim Lanzendoerfer)
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
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>
>I have put up the wartime biographies of Admirals Nimitz, Halsey, Spruance,
>Kinkaid, Clark and part of “Ted” Sherman’s.
>
>Enjoy,
>Tim
>
>Tim Lanzendoerfer | “I have just taken on a great
>Amateur Naval Historian | responsibility. I will do my
>Email: BWV_Wiesbaden@t-online.de | utmost to meet it” – Nimitz
>—————————————————————–
> The United States Navy in the Pacific War 1941 – 1945
> http://www.microworks.net/pacific
> The ships, the men, the battles
>—————————————————————–

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HistoryNet news

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Oct 27 20:26:21 1997
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>Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:24:34 -0500
>To: mahan@microwrks.com
>From: Tom Robison
>Subject: HistoryNet news
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>
>Offered for your edification and enjoyment.
>
>———————————————————————
>* * * * * * * * * * * TheHistoryNet Digest * * * * * * * * * * *
>———————————————————————
> New Features & Highlights on http://www.TheHistoryNet.com
> [posted October 27, 1997]
>
>* First Naval Battle of Guadalcanal **
>Like weary boxers, the opposing forces slugged it out with one another in
>Ironbottom Sound.
>http://www.thehistorynet.com/WorldWarII/articles/1997/1197_cover.htm
>
>
>Tom Robison
>Ossian, Indiana
>tcrobi@mindspring.com

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Questions, Questions, and still more….QUESTIONS!

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Sat Oct 25 14:43:37 1997
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:41:48 +0200
>To: wwii-l@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu, mahan@microwrks.com, >marhst-l@post.queensu.ca
>Subject: Re: Questions, Questions, and still more….QUESTIONS!
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>From: BWV_WIESBADEN@t-online.de (Tim Lanzendoerfer)
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>
> > Tim:
> >
> > According to the book “Combat Command” by Admiral Frederick C.
> > Sherman, in the fall of 1943 he commanded a carrier task force built
> > around the Saratoga and Princeton. After the invasion of Tarawa, he
> > shifted his flag to the Bunker Hill which was teamed with the
> > Monerery. He took over command of TG 38.3 (Essex, Lexington, Langley
> > & Princeton) on August 16, 1944.
> >
> > Sorry I can’t be a little more specific as to dates as the book is
> > more of a general history of the fighting in the Pacific rather than
> > an autobiography.
> >
> > Allan
>
>Allan, thanks for the reply. How did you like Combat Command?
>Anyway, for whom it interests. I think I was able to track Sherman, at least
>starting in November 1942 – where he was in between, I don’t know…or I know
>and just don’t know as I type this.
>Sherman became Rear-Admiral and commander of Enterprise when Kinkaid was
>relieved in November 1942. He stayed on that post until Enterprise went to
>Hawaii in May, from when on he was with Rear-Admiral Fitch as advisor to
>COMAIRSOPAC. He then transfered to Pearl Harbor as COMCARDIV2 on Essex,
>conducting operations with her and Enterprise until the latter >returned to the
>States, and transfered back to the South Pacific as commander of >TF38 (Saratoga,
>later Saratoga and Princeton), conducting the famous raid on Rabaul >in November
>1943, and from then on I can track him alright.
>The confusion came because The Fast Carriers is improperly indexed: >the entire
>period above except the TF38 thing is not indexed under the name Sherman,
>Frederick C.
>
>Thanks again,
>Tim
>
>Tim Lanzendoerfer | “I have just taken on a great
>Amateur Naval Historian | responsibility. I will do my
>Email: BWV_Wiesbaden@t-online.de | utmost to meet it” – Nimitz
>—————————————————————–
> The United States Navy in the Pacific War 1941 – 1945
> http://www.microworks.net/pacific
> The ships, the men, the battles
>—————————————————————–

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BB-38 (fwd)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Tue Oct 28 14:13:14 1997
>Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:07:37 -0500 (EST)
>From: MEMullen@aol.com
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: Re: BB-38 (fwd)
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>
>In a message dated 97-10-28 13:29:04 EST,Tim Lanzendoerfer forwards:
>
>> > I am also looking for a William Bonneau who was born somewhere between
>1926
> >>
>I tried www.four11.com telephone number search and found six or eight william
>bonneau’s. Might try there.
>
>Mike Mullen

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BB-38 (fwd)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Tue Oct 28 11:09:40 1997
>Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:55:11 +0200
>To: mahan@microwrks.com, wwii-l@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu, >marhst-l@post.queensu.ca
>Subject: BB-38 (fwd)
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>From: BWV_WIESBADEN@t-online.de (Tim Lanzendoerfer)
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>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>Reply-To: mahan@microworks.net
>
> > I am also looking for a William Bonneau who was born somewhere between 1926
> > and 1929. He served in the US Navy aboard the USS Pennsylvania BB-38 in
> > 1945. He was aboard when she took a Japanese Torpedo. He was in “A”
> > division and was trapped in a flooding compartment on Aug. 13, 1945 and was
> > saved by my father (now 72) and another man. My father has asked me to see
> > if I could locate him to see how he is doing today and maybe talk on the
> > phone. If you have any info PLEASE e-mail me. If you have any suggestions
> > on how to go about this search or where to post information. Thanks for
> > your time.
>
>I got this through my webpage. Does anybody have the address of a veteran’s
>organization that might be able to help? Or anybody who knows of >other forms to
>aid this man on his search?
>
>Thanks,
>Tim
>
>Tim Lanzendoerfer | “I have just taken on a great
>Amateur Naval Historian | responsibility. I will do my
>Email: BWV_Wiesbaden@t-online.de | utmost to meet it” – Nimitz
>—————————————————————–
> The United States Navy in the Pacific War 1941 – 1945
> http://www.microworks.net/pacific
> The ships, the men, the battles
>—————————————————————–

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Arsenal Ship program officially dead

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Oct 29 00:35:11 1997
>Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:35:22 -0600
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
>Organization: None whatsoever
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>
>See the following Philadelphia Enquirer news story on line;
>
>http://www.phillynews.com:80/inquirer/97/Oct/26/national/NAVY26.htm
>
>(Make sure you get the full URL to enter, in case the line has wrapped
>in your mail window)

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Colombian Marines and River gunboats

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Oct 29 00:36:25 1997
>Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:36:52 -0600
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
>Organization: None whatsoever
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> “C. Patrick Hreachmack” ,
> Tony Teal , MARHST
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>Subject: Colombian Marines and River gunboats
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>
>For a story that turns out to be amusing but could have been a small
>tragedy:
>
>http://my.excite.com/News/971027/17.ODD-FLAG.html

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book “Hostile Waters”

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Oct 29 09:57:05 1997
>Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:54:33 -0800
>From: Mike Potter
>Organization: Artecon, Inc.
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I)
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: Re: book “Hostile Waters”
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>
> > A few weeks ago there was a statement in the news, issued by an
> > admiral, denouncing the book … Anyone have that admiral’s name?
> > Anyone have the details of his statement?
>
>Bill, this might refer to the review in October 1997 USNI Proceedings.
>
>–
>Michael C Potter Capt SC USNR mike.potter@artecon.com
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