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WWII History

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Sep 04 09:23:55 1997
>X-Sender: tcrobi@pophost.fw.hac.com
>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:21:33 -0500
>To: AEROSP-L@SIVM.SI.EDU, aircraft@idsi.net, mahan@microwrks.com
>From: Tom Robison
>Subject: WWII History
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>
> UNIVERSITY HISTORIAN SEEKS WORLD WAR II MEMORABILIA — Florida State
> University in Tallahassee has established the Institute on World War
> II and the Human Experience, and is seeking donations of privately
> owned memorabilia to preserve the legacy of the aging World War II
> generation. The institute, directed by Prof. William Oldson of the FSU
> History Department, is concerned with the loss of irreplaceable
> materials related to the Second World War. “We are interested in
> personal papers, letters, photos, and other memorabilia,” Oldson said.
> He’s appealing directly to veteran, defense workers and their families
> to help collect, preserve and display artifacts and memorabilia of
> that time.
>
> Anyone interested in helping out, donating materials, or learning more
> about the project may contact Oldson in care of the FSU History
> Department, Tallahassee, FL 32306-2029. Oldson can also be reached by
> phone at (850) 644-9541, by fax at (805) 644-6402, by e-mail at
> woldson@garnet.acns.fsu.edu, or via the institute’s home page at
> http://www.fsu.edu/~ww2 on the World Wide Web. (FSU)
>
>
>Tom Robison
>tcrobi@most.fw.hac.com
>Hughes Defense Communications, Fort Wayne, IN

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Interesting letter

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Sep 04 09:49:29 1997
>X-Sender: dave@microworks.net
>X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32)
>Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 09:49:33 -0700
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>From: Dave Riddle
>Subject: Interesting letter
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>
>After reading Tom Robison’s note this morning about the FSU WWII history
>project and how this collection will focus on the “human experience” I
>thought the list might find this letter interesting.
>
>
>
>This letter was written to my Grandfathers mother by my Grandmother on
>December 13, 1941 while she was 8 months pregnant with my father (Bill
>Riddle, an active poster on this list). When the Japanese attacked Pearl my
>Grandfather was to sea and she relates how her oldest son (then three years
>old) was hit in the leg by a bullet from a Japanese war plane!
>
>Does anyone on the list know if this makes him the youngest casulty that
>morning.
>
>The graphic mentioned above is a high res scan so it is very readable.
>
>Dave Riddle
>
>
>|——————————————————-|
>| David W. Riddle | http://www.microworks.net |
>| (O) 602-813-4569 | http://www.openlines.com |
>| (F) 602-813-4659 | |
>| | An interesting company legal |
>| 1958 TR-3A TS34575L | history website! |
>| vintage racer | http://www.splashpools.com |
>
>|——————————————————-|

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Posting from the Mahan list

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Sep 04 12:12:07 1997
>X-Sender: woldson@garnet.acns.fsu.edu
>X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32)
>Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 15:20:12 -0400
>To: Dave Riddle
>From: William Oldson
>Subject: Re: Posting from the Mahan list
>
>Dave:
>
> THANKS!
>
> A great letter–I print it off to keep in my files.
>
> PLEASE, protect that letter–it’s a treasure which should > have permanent
>provision made for its safety.
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Bill Oldson
>
>
>
>
>
>At 09:42 AM 9/4/1997 -0700, you wrote:
> >I run the Mahan list serve and a posting came across it today about your
> >project. I thought I would send you this .jpg file to see if you would be
> >interested in including a copy (can not give you the original it is a
> >family treasure) in your archive.
> >The letter was from my Grandmother who was at Pearl Harbor while my
> >grandfather was at sea when the Japanese attacked. She was 8 months
> >pregnant with my father at the time and his older brother was three years
> >old. As you can read in the note from her to my grandfathers mother she
> >describes her young son being shot in the leg from a Japanese war plane
> >while he was in his bed.
> >I do not think the family has checked but I would bet he was probably the
> >youngest casualty at Pearl Harbor that morning.
> >
> >If the file does not come through you can find it at:
> >
> >
> >Dave Riddle
> >
> >Attachment Converted: “c:\MyFiles\E-mail\Dec1341.JPG”
> >
> >|——————————————————-|
> >| David W. Riddle | http://www.microworks.net |
> >| (O) 602-813-4569 | http://www.openlines.com |
> >| (F) 602-813-4659 | |
> >| | An interesting company legal |
> >| 1958 TR-3A TS34575L | history website! |
> >| vintage racer | http://www.splashpools.com |
> >
> >|——————————————————-|

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WWII Order of Battle (fwd)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Sat Sep 06 02:56:54 1997
>Date: Sat, 6 Sep 97 11:56 MET DST
>To: mahan@microwrks.com, marhst-l@post.queensu.ca, >wwii-l@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu
>Subject: WWII Order of Battle (fwd)
>X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.0
>X-Sender: 0611603955-0001@t-online.de (Silvia Lanzendoerfer)
>From: BWV_WIESBADEN@t-online.de (Tim Lanzendoerfer)
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>
>Dr Leo Niehorster schrieb:
> > Dear Sir,
> >
> > I am looking for the Administrative Order of
> > Battle od the USN on December 1941. Do you have anything like this. Many
> > thanks for youir time and attention.
>
>Can anybody help this man?
>
>Tim
>
>Tim Lanzendoerfer | The US Navy in
>Amateur Naval Historian | the Pacific War
>Email:BWV_Wiesbaden@t-online.de| 1941 – 1945
>http://www.microworks.net/pacific/pacific.htm

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MARHST-L Cookbook–BEER BREAD

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Sun Sep 07 16:44:43 1997
>X-Authentication-Warning: ecom7.ecn.bgu.edu: mslrc owned process doing -bs
>Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:44:09 -0500 (CDT)
>From: “Louis R. Coatney”
>X-Sender: mslrc@ecom7.ecn.bgu.edu
>To: marhst-l@qucdn.queensu.ca, mahan@microwrks.com
>cc: clcoatney@aol.com, “William D. Anderson” ,
> “Lee H. Tichenor” ,
> “Louis R. Coatney”
>Subject: Re: MARHST-L Cookbook–BEER BREAD
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>
>
>This was given to me/us up in Juneau by Coast Guard CAPT. Ed Nelson
> who was at that time the Commander of the [Alaska … 17?] Coast
> Guard District and who later went on to Supe the USCG Academy.
>
>Beer bread:
>
> 1 can of normal (not “lite”) beer.
> 2 tablespoons of sugar … and let the kids watch the fizzzzzz πŸ™‚
> 3 cups of SELF-RISING flour
>
>… dumped into a pre-greased/buttered breadpan … and don’t mix it
> up *too* much …
>
> … at *400* degrees — actually more like 350, I think, but we
> don’t want to lose the 1-2-3-4-5-simple beauty of the thing, do we?
>
> … for *55* minutes.
>
>Let it take its time to cool and then turn the pan over to let it drop
> … warm, moist, and fragrant … into your hand.
>
>LAVISHLY butter … with cold, hard butter.
>
>ENJOY. πŸ™‚
>
>It’s the only way I can stand beer. Great for office parties, too.
>
>Lou
> Coatney, mslrc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
>www.wiu.edu/users/mslrc/ (free game and cardstock model ship plan)

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Navy pages updated

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Sun Sep 07 09:50:04 1997
>Date: Sun, 7 Sep 97 18:49 MET DST
>To: harpoon@lists.stanford.edu, mahan@microwrks.com,
> marinespinner@unterland.de, wwii-l@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu,
> marhst-l@post.queensu.ca, consim-l@listserv.uni-c.dk
>Subject: Navy pages updated
>X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.0
>X-Sender: 0611603955-0001@t-online.de (Silvia Lanzendoerfer)
>From: BWV_WIESBADEN@t-online.de (Tim Lanzendoerfer)
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>
>The US Navy pages have been updated as follows:
>
> – a broken link was fixed in the “Cruisers” section. If you > press “next
>class” in the Omaha class, you will be led to the next class
> – the picture of Ulithi atoll in the opening screen of > “Ships” has been
>edited and refined
> – as has the picture of USS Quiny in the “New Orleans” screen
> – as has the picture of Essex in the “Essex” screen
> – the “Destroyers” section has received another picture, that of a
>Benson class DD. Work has stopped on the destroyers until I receive the
>references which I ordered
> – I have added a “index.htm” which allows you to enter the pages by
>typing http://www.microworks.net/pacific alone
> – I have opened two biographies in the biography section, > and added the
>pictures for many more
> – I have also opened the Aviation section with the F4F Wildcat and
>pictures for others
> – I have added the Washington Treaty text transcribed by > Larry Jewell to
>the “Specials” section
> – I have also begun work on a List of United States Naval > Vessels Lost
>in the War, to be found under the “Specials” section as well
> – Finally I have uploaded a draft of the description of the > Battle of
>the Coral Sea. It is not yet proof-read for grammatical mistakes, or causal
>errors.
>
>Thanks for your patience,
>Tim
>
>Tim Lanzendoerfer | The US Navy in
>Amateur Naval Historian | the Pacific War
>Email:BWV_Wiesbaden@t-online.de| 1941 – 1945
>http://www.microworks.net/pacific/pacific.htm

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Spanish American War Centennial Website

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Sep 08 20:58:02 1997
>Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 12:00:55 -0400
>From: Patrick McSherry >Reply-To: pmm@redrose.net
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U)
>To: mahan@microwrks.com
>Subject: Spanish American War Centennial Website
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>
>Hello!
>
>Things have been very hectic here, so I have not been involved in the
>conversations here for quite a while. However, I wanted to mention that
>the Spanish American War Centennial Website, with quite a bit of naval
>info., has been greatly updated within the last week.
>
>Check it out at http://www.powerscourt.com/war
>
>Patrick
>Conestoga, PA

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MAHAN ready for a “nuclear free” debate?

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Sep 08 11:24:36 1997
>Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:24:23 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Tracy Johnson
>To: MAHAN-L
>Subject: Re: MAHAN ready for a “nuclear free” debate?
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>
>What’s this I hear about the Russians:
>
>1) Losing track of about 100 warheads.
>
>2) Their former Minister (who had responsibility of the warheads)
>committing suicide.
>
>3) His successor, a month or so later also commits suicide.
>
>Are these rumors true or a new (Internet) legend?
>
>Tracy Johnson
>Minister of Propaganda, Justin Thyme Productions
>tjohnson@adnetsol.com
>”Semper Pollus”
> ADC-2239-5531

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Barbecuing (on) MAHAN :-)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Sep 08 11:34:05 1997
>X-Authentication-Warning: ecom3.ecnet.net: mslrc owned process doing -bs
>Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 13:33:23 -0500 (CDT)
>From: “Louis R. Coatney”
>X-Sender: mslrc@ecom3
>To: Markus Stumptner
>cc: mahan@microwrks.com
>Subject: Barbecuing (on) MAHAN πŸ™‚
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>
>On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Markus Stumptner wrote:
> > I thought this was a mailing list dealing with naval strategy
> > and technology, not one about “barbecuing” political dissenters.
>
>Markus, you sound … nervous? πŸ™‚
>
>As to who gets barbecued in this depends on the positions’ relative
> truth/validity … as to be identified in fair trial-by-
> intellectual-combat.
>
>… and we’re talking about policy dissenters, not just political
> dissenters, here.
>
>And what would you recommend on barbecued Austrians, incidentally,
> Markus? Mustard? Worcestershire sauce? A-1 steak sauce? πŸ™‚
>
>Actually, considering the culinary traditions of some of the
> South Pacific islanders, this might be a relevant sub-thread in
> and of itself. That’s it! We can feed the (debate) losers to
> the … Fijians!! πŸ™‚
>
>Lou
> Coatney … who is … ummm … relishing the hors d’oeuvres
> de combatte, already.
> … and has disclosed his English ancestry shamelessly.

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Barbecuing (on) MAHAN :-)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Sep 08 11:59:21 1997
>Comments: Authenticated sender is
>From: “James H. E. Maugham”
>Organization: RST Environmental Services, Inc.
>To: mahan@microwrks.com
>Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 14:59:16 -0500
>Subject: Re: Barbecuing (on) MAHAN πŸ™‚
>Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com
>Priority: normal
>X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1)
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>
>On 8 Sep 97 at 13:33, Louis R. Coatney wrote:
>
> > Actually, considering the culinary traditions of some of the
> > South Pacific islanders, this might be a relevant sub-thread in
> > and of itself. That’s it! We can feed the (debate) losers to
> > the … Fijians!! πŸ™‚
> >
> > … and has disclosed his English ancestry shamelessly.
>
>While I share your English ancestry Lou, I have to step in here to >correct your
>desire to feed the losers to the Fijians.
>
>It was my Maori ancestors that would partake of “long pork”, not the Fijians
>who, when exercised by the transgressions of white visitors, would simply
>dis-assemble them into their component parts. They would then >completely waste
>this largess by failing to hang the meat properly to age.
>
>Which has lead to a great deal of confusion over the years when >Maoris greeted
>visiting sailors with a statement that the sailors would be “well hung”! πŸ™‚
>
>Regards,
>
>James “I pick my teeth at you” Maugham
>In the Heart of the Pine Barrens 39 54 03 N, 74 49 26 W

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