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Contentious Taiwanese exercise will employ new frigates

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Jun 16 10:16:59 1997
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:14:36 -0700
>From: Mike Potter
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>Taiwan Says No Plans to Cancel Drill
>____________________________________
>By Alice Hung
>
>TAIPEI (Reuter Thursday June 12 10:54 AM EDT) – Taiwan said on Thursday
>it had no plan to cancel what it called routine military drills on the
>eve of Hong Kong’s handover to China, despite a U.S. request not to hold
>the exercises.
>
>”This is a routine annual exercise. We will proceed,” a defense ministry
>spokesman told Reuters by telephone.
>
>”You shouldn’t link this too much to the (reported) Chinese communists’
>maneuvers. This is not a military competition with the Chinese
>communists.”
>
>The United States on Wednesday urged Taiwan and China not to stage
>military exercises during the sensitive run-up to Hong Kong’s return on
>July 1 to Chinese control.
>
>”It’s best to stand down in times like this and to continue activities
>that promote goodwill and understanding and peace and not to engage in
>activities that are counterproductive,” State Department spokesman
>Nicholas Burns told reporters.
>
>Taiwan announced major military exercises for June 23-24 and an
>independent Hong Kong newspaper reported on Tuesday that China was
>planning to respond with its own military exercises sometime this month.
>
>China on Thursday brushed aside a U.S. call not to hold military
>exercises and urged rival Taiwan to take more actions conducive to
>improving relations.
>
>Asked whether China planned to hold military exercises in the weeks
>before the handover of Hong Kong on July 1, at the same time as planned
>Taiwan war games, Foreign Ministry spokesman Cui Tiankai declined to
>comment.
>
>He also avoided comment on a U.S. call on China and Taiwan not to stage
>military exercises during the sensitive run-up to Hong Kong’s return to
>Chinese control.
>
>The planned maneuver will be the first Taiwanese live-fire military
>exercise since September 1994.
>
>The military has already begun its first rehearsal drill for the late
>June exercises.
>
>State radio reported the armed forces continued the second of a two-day
>rehearsal involving live artillery firing in a southern military base on
>Thursday.
>
>Taiwan has repeatedly said its planned exercises were unrelated to the
>Hong Kong handover despite the sensitive timing, but the Taiwan military
>spokesman confirmed the large-scale war games were intended to boost
>public confidence.
>
>”We would like to take the opportunity to display our newly purchased
>weapons in order to boost confidence of our contrymen,” the military
>spokesman said.
>
>Beijing has regarded Taiwan a renegade province since Nationalist troops
>lost a civil war and took refugee on the island in 1949.
>
>China says its handling of Hong Kong’s return under a “one country, two
>systems” model of political and economic autonomy should reassure Taiwan
>of its own future with the mainland.
>
>Taiwan is expected to showcase a range of new high-technology weapons,
>including F-16 and Mirage 2000-5 fighters recently imported from the
>United States and France.
>
>Also slated for testing are several radar-evading Lafayette-class
>”stealth” frigates bought from France and U.S.-made Patriot anti-missile
>missiles, Taiwanese media has reported.
>
>Analysts said Taiwan’s military exercises have been carefully calculated
>to send Beijing a powerful political message on the eve of the Hong Kong
>handover.
>
>”Taiwan wants to make clear that Taiwan is not Hong Kong,” military
>expert Andrew Yang told Reuters.
>
>”It wants to tell Beijing that Taiwan processes its own army and it will
>never accept the ‘one country, two systems’ formula,” Yang said.
>
>Jason Hu, Taiwan’s chief representative in Washington, said: “There’s no
>political message, period.”
>
>Hu said on Wednesday U.S. officials “fully understand” Taiwan’s plan to
>stage war games and that there was “no better time” because the
>political significance could always be imputed.
>
>Beijing held eight months of war games, amphibious landing practices and
>unarmed ballistic missile tests near Taiwan in the run-up to the
>island’s March 1996 presidential election.
>
>China said then it was warning voters in Taiwan’s first ever
>presidential elections against any move towards independence.
>
>Washington responded by sending two aircraft carrier battle groups to
>the region in a show of support for Taiwan.
>
>Copyright ร‚ยฉ 1997 Reuters Limited.

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[Fwd: in the news today…]

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Tue Jun 17 18:35:19 1997
>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:35:15 -0500
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
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> >From the East European news watching service whose name I forget…
>
>-Brooks
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>MILITARY CORRUPTION UPDATE. Criminal charges have officially been filed
>against Admiral Igor Khmelnov, former chief of staff of the Russian Navy,
>ITAR-TASS reported on 17 June. Maj.-Gen. Valerii Suchkov, the military
>procurator of the Pacific Fleet, said Khmelnov is charged with abusing his
>authority. Suchkov has said that beginning in August 1994, when Khmelnov was
>commander of the Pacific Fleet, two aircraft carriers were sold to South
>Korea, and the $9 million in proceeds were used to build new housing for
>officers in Khmelnov’s entourage. Proceeds from the sale of another 64
>warships to India and South Korea were also allegedly used to build housing
>for favored officers. Khmelnov was sacked by presidential decree in April.
>Former Deputy Defense Minister Konstantin Kobets was arrested the following
>month and charged with corruption, abuse of office, and illegal
>possession of
>firearms
>
>PRIMAKOV DEFENDS SALE OF RUSSIAN MISSILES TO CYPRUS. Foreign Minister
>Yevgenii
>Primakov said on 16 June that Russia will proceed with the sale of S-300 air
>defense missiles to Greek-controlled Cyprus, despite Turkish and Western
>objections, AFP and ITAR-TASS reported. He said Moscow will consider
>canceling
>the deal only if Cyprus is demilitarized. Primakov was speaking to
>journalists
>in Moscow following a meeting with his Cypriot counterpart, Yiannakis
>Cassoulidis. The deal, agreed in January, was immediately criticized by
>Turkey, the U.S., and Britain. Russian officials rejected that criticism
>as an
>attempt to squeeze Russia out of the world arms market.

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Icel. Trawlers, war declaration etc (fwd)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Jun 18 18:34:15 1997
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>From: “Louis R. Coatney”
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>Subject: Re: Icel. Trawlers, war declaration etc (fwd)
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>
>My mail is down, for the time being. I can send but not receive.
> ‘Thought you folks might enjoy the following. ๐Ÿ™‚
>
>Lou Coatney
>
>———- Forwarded message ———-
>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 23:25:27 GMT
>From: Gudmundur H
>Subject: Re: Icel. Trawlers, war declaration etc
>
> > Gudmundur,
> > Thank you for filling us in on Icelandic losses. You have
> > much to offer WWII-L, I think.
> > Please do tell us about the mysterious loss of 2 Icelandic
> > trawlers. We are always keen on what our Perfidious Albionese
> > brethren have been up to. Wasn’t there a more recent confronta-
> > tion at sea, as well? How does Iceland go about declaring war?
> > (… other than by gathering down on the strand by the drakke
> > and clapping your swords on your shields, of course.)
> >
> > Lou Coatney, Western Illinois University Library
>
> Lou,
> I am still looking into the fates of those trawlers that went
>down with all hands during the war (I dont want to say something that I
>cannot stand by as I was told that there were SHARP people on this list
>:) but they both were on a journey to Britain to sell their fish
>(Icelandic trawlers made over 2000 journeys during the war to the UK).
>These fish transports were vital to the UK as their own fishing fleets
>had largely been drafted into the RN for varius duties.
> The only think that I can think of about those “more recent
>confrontation” is the two “cod wars” that we won against the British in
>1972 and 1976 ๐Ÿ™‚ We had only 4 mini-gunboats that were frequently struck
>by Britsh frigates and tug boats (manned by harbour criminals). The
>Britsh lost due to our resistance and also due to heavy international
>pressure from both the NATO and the UN. They suffered amazing damage as
>one frigate was heavily damaged after trying to sink our Tyr (commanded
>by our best captain) and another frigate was also much damaged.
> I dont think that Iceland has any declaration of war statement
>as we dont have any army, no air force and just 2 active gunboats (with
>WWI danish guns). We have a contract with the US that says that if we
>are attacked then Uncle Sam will come to our aid (I think we are the
>only country that has this kind of deal with the US, it was signed in
>1948 I think and is for 99 years).
> BTW, We dropped our Shields and Swords in the 14th century
>mostly and then the Wiking tradition died and the Danish came and
>stepped all over us.
> Gudmundur H

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Java -Based Naval wargame – Midway

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Jun 18 23:45:48 1997
>Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:46:03 -0500
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
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> Amateur Historians interested in 20th century military > history ,
> Andrew Toppan ,
> “C. Patrick Hreachmack” ,
> Chris Carlson ,
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> flat-top list ,
> Greg Dunn ,
> “harpoon@lists.Stanford.EDU,
> Joe Cunningham , JON PARSHALL ,
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>Subject: Java -Based Naval wargame – Midway
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>
>The URL is:
>
>http://excalibur.cit.cornell.edu/midway/html/begin.html
>
>I haven’t tried it yet but somebody on the CONSIM-L list says it is the
>first decent Java-based game he’s seen.
>
>-Brooks A Rowlett

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AP report re Liberty Captain

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Jun 18 22:39:40 1997
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>From: Jim Ennes
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>Here is a later story by the same AP reporter after
>Captain McGonagle’s surprising speec at Arlington
>National Cemetery. McGonagle has declined for 30
>years to make any comment about deliberateness or
>Israeli culpability. In that respect he has been the only
>known survivor not to be on record calling the attack
>deliberate. Finally he spoke out, saying the attack was
>not a case of mistaken identity as the Israeli government
>claims.
>
>
>By GENE KRAMER
>Associated Press Writer
>Sunday, June 8, 1997 8:33 pm EDT
>
>
>WASHINGTON (AP) — Ending three decades of noncommittal silence, the USS
>Liberty’s last skipper on Sunday urged that the U.S. and Israeli
>governments release full details about Israel’s 1967 assault on his ship
>that killed 34 and wounded 171 Americans.
>
>“I think it’s about time that the state of Israel and the United States
>government provide the crew members of the Liberty and the rest of the
>American people the facts of what happened, and why it came about that the
>Liberty was attacked 30 years ago today,” said retired Navy Capt. William
>L. McGonagle.
>
>“For many years I have wanted to believe that the attack on the Liberty
>was pure error,” said the 71-year-old winner of the Medal of Honor, his
>voice cracking with emotion.
>
>But “it appears to me that it was not a pure case of mistaken identity, it
>was on the other hand gross incompetence and aggravated dereliction of duty
>on the part of many officers and men of the state of Israel,” said
>McGonagle, who now lives in Palm Springs, Calif.
>
>His appeal for facts came in a speech to nearly 200 people at nearby
>Arlington National Cemetery. The occasion was a reunion of survivors from
>the intelligence-gathering ship, relatives and descendants.
>
>He recalled to reporters later that Israel quickly apologized for the
>tragedy, noting that the State Department accepted the apology but not
>Israel’s explanation of faulty identification and inadequate ship markings.
>By 1980, Israel had paid $12,889,907 compensation, some of which went to
>victims’ families and survivors, according to U.S. figures.
>
>McGonagle’s brief speech and later comments stopped short of some public
>allegations that the Israeli air and torpedo boat attack was undertaken for
>strategic reasons with knowledge that the target was an American ship in
>international waters of the Mediterranean north of Sinai.
>
>Shipmates who credit the former skipper’s heroic leadership with keeping
>the listing, crippled ship from sinking, agreed that it was the first time
>he has shared publicly their frustration about withheld information and
>suspicions of a cover-up.
>
>“American citizens deserve no less than to know exactly what transpired”
>when the U.S. 6th Fleet twice launched jets to aid the Liberty but they
>never appeared at the site of the ship, McGonagle said.
>
>The Liberty Veterans Association, which McGonagle joined only recently, has
>circulated assertions that the U.S. jets were recalled to avoid
>embarrassing Israel.
>
>“I do know that the U.S. government activated the hot line between
>Washington and Moscow, and the message to Moscow was in effect” to advise
>Egypt, its ally, that U.S. planes went aloft on a mission “to establish
>the status” of the crippled Liberty, the ex-skipper said.
>
>Then Soviet Prime Minister Alexei Kosygin “reported back to Washington in
>an hour that the message was received” by Egypt, he said, but still no
>planes came.
>
>Elaborating on his use of “incompetence” and “dereliction of duty,” the
>captain said Israeli spotters “identified us within minutes of arriving at
>our initial point of operation and yet we were surveilled eight times
>altogether” over several hours.
>
>“Not one time did they move the tower indication of our ship’s position at
>each sighting. … Had they done so they would have discovered we were in
>international waters the entire time, and we were not provoking any
>incident with our 40 50-caliber machine guns for limited self-defense.”
>
>After the June 8, 1967, daylight attack, the crippled Liberty drifted
>alone, “for 23 hours a ship without a country,” recalled former
>Boatswain’s Mate Larry Weaver, who four years ago moved from Lancaster,
>Pa., to Hawaii to continue treatment for massive injuries from 60 pieces of
>shrapnel.

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Carriers!: “The Queens of the Sea” … and/or naval chessboard? (fwd)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Jun 19 14:05:05 1997
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>From: “Louis R. Coatney”
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>Subject: Carriers!: “The Queens of the Sea” … and/or naval >chessboard? (fwd)
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>
>My e-mail still isn’t receiving (until I get rid of another 3MB from
> my account, but I thought you folks might enjoy this post from times
> past. ๐Ÿ™‚
>
>Lou Coatney
>
>———- Forwarded message ———-
>Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:46:49 -0600 (CST)
>
> > I would love to hear your naval version. I am a bit skeptical of calling
> > airpower the queen though. But then I usually think of “strategic
> > bombing” when I think of airpower.
>
>OK, David, here’s my (WWII era) naval assignments to the chessboard:
>
>Pawns: Destroyers — workhorses of the sea. Sentinels/guardians.
> They travel and fight best in squadrons.
>
>Knights: Submarines — you never know where they’re going to
> plop down … “pop up.” ๐Ÿ™‚ They love to penetrate pawn/
> destroyer lines/screens.
>
>Bishops: Light cruisers adept at slashing attack and dedicated
> to complementing (or killing) destroyers/pawns.
>
>Rooks: Heavy cruisers — also farther-ranging than destroyers/
> pawns and heavier/orthogonal hitters than light cruisers.
> (Somehow, 8″ guns seem more “orthogonal,” and 6″ guns seem
> more “diagonal,” anyway.)
>
>Queen: Aircraft carrier — “fast carriers,” far-ranging and strategic
> in capability like submarines. OK! OK! So carriers are not
> mere combination gun platforms of 8″ and 6″ guns — despite
> their pre-WWII attempts at gun armament. However!: think
> of them as the combined (sea)plane strength of a light and
> heavy cruiser … ? NAAAAAAAAAAAAH ๐Ÿ™‚
> I suppose that sub-mariners could make a good case that
> flattops are just bigger/juicier targets, now, and that
> the most powerful pieces on the board should be sub-marine,
> but my opinion *is* WWII era.
>
>King: Battleship — the main battle line. The weapon of last
> resort. Slow. HEAVY. (Larry Clemens? Anyone? What is
> the term for battlewagons, reflecting their commitment being
> their nation’s ultimate throw of the dice? The *capital*
> ship?)
>
>I had considered Rooks as the battleships and the King the
> invasion and/or merchant fleet, but ….
>
>(Sir! This is my cruiser. This is my carrier! This is for
> probing. This is for … ummm … the Harrier? ๐Ÿ™‚ )
>
>Lou Coatney, Admiral of the Checkered Sea
> mslrc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
>
>Also, is that maritime/naval list in existence yet? Does
> anyone have the address?
>
>Thanks.

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Animals in Consims (fwd)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Jun 19 18:33:38 1997
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>
>———- Forwarded message ———-
>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:32:22 -0500
>From: ROWLETB
>To: Multiple recipients of list CONSIM-L
>Subject: Animals in Consims
>Newsgroups: bit.listserv.consim-l
>
>The book THE NAVAL WAR IN THE MEDITERRANEAN, 1914-1918 by Paul G Halpern, is a
>wonderful read, and there is a brief account of some operations which I
>thought would make a nice variation for skirmish gamers.
>
>During 1916-17, small units of the Royal Navy conducted operations that would
>best be described as ‘cattle rustling’. Specifically, Royal Navy (and Marine)
>boats would go ashore in Turkey and raid farms, etc. removing quantities of
>cattle (in the European sense of ‘cattle’ referring to many kinds of
>livestock, not just the bovine. This obtained extra food for the Entente
>units, and removed potential food sources for Turkish/Central powers forces.
>
>MINIATURE WARGAMES and WARGAMES ILLUSTRATED readers could probably find a nice
>Viking raid skirmish scenario and update it to World War One rules….
>
> – Brooks A. Rowlett

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Old Ironsides to Sail Again

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Tue Jun 24 04:58:27 1997
>Subject: RE: Old Ironsides to Sail Again
>From: fmcbride@mail02.mitre.org (Frank A. McBride)
>To: mike.potter@artecon.com (Mike Potter), mahan@microworks.net
>Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 07:57:53 -0400
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>I am flying into Logan Airport early this afternoon. Before I head >to Natick,
>MA, I would like to visit the Constitution and take pictures. How can I get
>there from the Airport? I am a rookie to the Boston area.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Frank McBride
> fmcbride@mitre.org
>
>**************************************************************
>
> >ADMINISTRATIVE MESSAGE
> >
> >ROUTINE
> >
> >R 191146Z JUN 97 ZYB MIN PSN 926158F31
> >
> >FM CNO WASHINGTON DC//N09B//
> >
> >TO NAVADMIN
> >
> >UNCLAS //N03330//
> >NAVADMIN 143/97
> >
> >MSGID/GENADMIN/N09//
> >
> >SUBJ/OLD IRONSIDES TO SAIL AGAIN//
> >
> >RMKS/1. USS CONSTITUTION, THE OLDEST OPERATIONAL WARSHIP IN THE WORLD,
> >BETTER KNOWN AS “OLD IRONSIDES,” WILL SET SAIL AT NOON ON 21 JUL 97 OFF
> >THE COAST OF MASSACHUSETTS. THE U.S. NAVY EVENT, DESIGNATED “OPERATION
> >SAIL 200,” WILL FEATURE THE FIRST OPERATIONAL SAILING OF CONSTITUTION IN
> >116 YEARS TO COMMEMORATE THE 200TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SHIP’S LAUNCHING.
> >
> >2. THE NAVAL HISTORICAL CENTER DET BOSTON RECENTLY COMPLETED A
> >FOUR-YEAR, $12 MILLION OVERHAUL ON THE 200 YEAR-OLD SHIP. CONSTITUTION
> >HAS BEEN RESTORED TO THE SHIP’S ORIGINAL WARFIGHTING READINESS.
> >SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN ACROSS AMERICA CONTRIBUTED THEIR PENNIES TO BUY THE
> >SIX SAILS THAT WILL BE USED DURING THE JULY SAIL.
> >
> >3. EXHAUSTIVE TESTS AND EVALUATIONS FOR THE SHIP AND A LENGTHY TRAINING
> >PROGRAM FOR THE CREW HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKEN TO PREPARE CONSTITUTION FOR
> >VOYAGE IN MASSACHUSETTS BAY. USS RAMAGE (DDG 61), USS HALYBURTON (FFG
> >40), AND THE BLUE ANGELS NAVY FLIGHT DEMONSTRATION TEAM WILL RENDER
> >HONORS TO CONSTITUTION IN TRIBUTE TO THE CORE VALUES OF “HONOR, COURAGE
> >AND COMMITMENT” THAT HAVE BEEN A NAVAL TRADITION FOR OVER 200 YEARS.
> >
> >4. CONSTITUTION WILL BE TOWED FROM BOSTON TO MARBLEHEAD, MASSACHUSSETS,
> >17 MILES NORTH OF BOSTON, ON JULY 20 TO STAGE THE SHIP BY THE SAIL
> >OPERATION AREA IN MASSACHUSETTS BAY. DURING THE WAR OF 1812, MARBLEHEAD
> >PROVIDED CONSTITUTION A SAFE HAVEN FROM TWO BRITISH WAR SHIPS.
> >CONSTITUTION WAS LAST MOORED IN MARBLEHEAD IN 1931.
> >
> >5. A NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL MEDIA POOL WILL EMBARK CONSTITUTION ON
> >JULY 21. OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COVER
> >THIS EVENT FROM OTHER PARTICIPATING U.S. NAVY SHIPS.
> >
> >6. RELEASED BY RADM A. N. LANGSTON, N09B.//
> >
> >BT
> >
> >

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TWWII British Troopship? SULTAN : Parameters wanted

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Jun 25 22:50:52 1997
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 00:45:17 -0500
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
>Reply-To: brooksar@indy.net
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>
>Maritime history list: I am still unable to receive anything from the
>list. Any reply needs to be sent directly to me,
>
>mailto:brooksar@indy.net
>
>I am looking for the basic parameters (length, beam, as many tonnage
>measures as available, propulsion, speed, cargo capacity, complement,
>passengers) of a vessel in the Malaya area, circa December 41-early 42.
>The vessel is named SULTAN; she does not show up in my Talbot-Booth’s
>Merchant Ships 1942 (which deliberately does not have war losses) nor in
>my Royal Navy listings from various books. I therefore suspect she is a
>troopship, those seem to show up in neitehr RN nor merchant listings.
>Data therefore might be found in the book which must exist but whose
>name i don’t know, on Commonwealth troopships. Can anyone provide these
>parameters?
>
>Thanks,
>Brooks A Rowlett
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U-boats carried Nazi gold to Evita Peron?

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From Thu Jun 26 17:42:39 1997
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:42:29 -0700
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>Wiesenthal says Evita probably stashed Nazi loot
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>BUENOS AIRES (June 26, 1997 6:03 p.m. EDT) – Simon Wiesenthal, the
>renowned hunter of Nazi war criminals, said in an interview published
>Thursday that Argentina should investigate whether Eva Peron hid Nazi
>gold in secret Swiss bank accounts.
>
>Journalists and historians have long suspected that Peron, wife of Juan
>Peron who ruled Argentina from 1946-55 and from 1973 until his death in
>1974, used her European tour in 1947 to deposit bribes from Nazi war
>criminals in Swiss banks.
>
>”In principle I would say it seems probable that those accounts exist
>because of the contacts Evita had with German and Croatian war
>criminals,” 88-year-old Wiesenthal, himself a Holocaust survivor, told
>Argentina’s “Pagina 12” newspaper.
>
>Argentina under the Perons was the refuge of some top Third Reich
>officials on the run from Europe, including Hitler’s confidant Martin
>Borman [sic], Holocaust “architect” Adolf Eichman[n] and possibly
>Auschwitz doctor Josef Mengele.
>
>Peron is alleged to have given thousands of blank passports to Nazis,
>and U.S. wartime documents estimate the Nazis secretly sent more than $1
>billion to be invested in Argentina one month before the war ended.
>
>Wiesenthal told “Pagina 12” at a Geneva conference on Jewish property
>looted by Nazis that Argentina should look into “German companies that
>received big investments in 1943 and 1944″ and reports of secret trips
>by German submarines.
>
>”It should also look at whether Eva Peron’s accounts in Switzerland
>existed or not,” the world-famous Nazi hunter said. He urged
>investigation into a “Swiss-Argentine axis” where Nazi loot was
>laundered in Switzerland and sent on to Argentina, which he said set up
>a virtual “welcoming committee for Nazis, giving them passports, visas
>and shelter.”
>
>”All South American countries had broken links with the Nazis except for
>Argentina, which continued keeping up good contacts with Hitler and
>doing business with the blood of the victims,” said Wiesenthal, founder
>of a Los Angeles center in his name that investigates Nazi war criminals
>still at large.
>
>Argentine President Carlos Menem, a Peronist, promised in May to set up
>a committee to investigate his country’s Nazi sympathies of the past.
>Wiesenthal praised the initiative but said there was no sign of it
>starting work yet.
>
>”It’s a much better attitude than Argentine governments had years ago,
>but for now it’s just promises. They have to investigate once and for
>all because no less than half a century has gone by,” he said.
>
> -= END OF MESSAGE =-
>
>[A note about an item in this story: “Bormann, Martin, 1900ร‚ยญ1945, German
>Nazi leader. In 1942 he became Hitler’s private secretary. Although he
>was rumored to have escaped to Argentina in 1945, his skeleton was
>unearthed and identified in West Berlin in 1973.” (from =Concise
>Columbia Encyclopedia= (1995)]

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