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Biography

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Nov 03 20:37:08 1997
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>Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:38:23 -0500
>To: c130mail@spectrumwd.com, mahan@microwrks.com
>From: Tom Robison
>Subject: Biography
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>Reply-To: mahan@microworks.net
>
> >WASHINGTON (AFNS) — One of the greatest American military figures and
> >Air Force proponents will be honored with a video biography to be aired
> >on national television in November.
> >
> >Gen. Henry Harley “Hap” Arnold, most noted for being the first Army Air
> >Corps chief of staff, will be featured in the Arts and Entertainment
> >channel program “BIOGRAPHY” as part of their 5-Star-Heroes-Week Nov.
> >10-14. The world premier of “Gen. ‘Hap’ Arnold: The Sky Warrior,” will
> >be Nov. 12 at 8 p.m. EST, 9 p.m. PST.
> >
> >Other personalities featured during A&E’s 5-Star-Heroes-Week include
> >Adm. ‘Bull’ Halsey, Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, Adm. Chester W. Nimitz
> >and Gen. George Marshall.
>
>
>Tom Robison
>Ossian, Indiana
>tcrobi@mindspring.com

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DANFS

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Nov 03 09:00:15 1997
>From: Brooks Rowlett
>Subject: DANFS
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:59:20 -0500 (EST)
>X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23]
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>
>David L. Riley wrote:
>
> > This is extracted from the “Dictionary of American Naval Fighting
> > Ships,” a staple for anyone maintaining a World War II naval webpage. In
> > 18 months of maintaining the Naval Historical Center’s page, fully 3/4
> > of the 4,000 e-mail queries were related to histories of vessels, and
> > mainly WWII vintage. The nine-volume “Dictionary” is being digitized by
>
>Currently there are over 1000 ship histories from DANFS online at
>http://www.uss-salem.org/danfs/ . This is an all-volunteer effort to
>digitize sections of DANFS, begun years ago, back when NHC said “we’re not
>interested” in digitizing DANFS. Currently we have all the
>battleshipsinterested” in digitizing DANFS. Currently we have all the
>battleships
>and fleet carriers (CV/CVL), 95% of the CVEs, half the destroyers, and a
>wide sampling of other ships online.
>
>—
>Andrew Toppan — elmer@wpi.edu — “I speak only for myself”
>U.S. Naval & Shipbuilding Museum/USS Salem Online @
>http://www.uss-salem.org/
>Naval History, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more
>Railroad Rosters & Photo Features — http://membrane.com/~elmer/rail/
>
>forwarded by brooksar@indy.net

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Flagship 1914

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Sat Nov 01 09:36:44 1997
>Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 11:35:24 -0800
>From: “Jack L. McSherry, Jr.”
>Organization: Jack L. McSherry, Jr., Inc.
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win95; U)
>To: mahan@microwrks.com
>CC: pmm@redrose.net
>Subject: Flagship 1914
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>Reply-To: mahan@microworks.net
>
>Can anyone tell me the name of the American Flagship for the Asiatic
>Squadron in 1914?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Pops McSherry

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Support ship… (fwd)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Sun Nov 02 07:48:16 1997
>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:46:27 +0200
>To: mahan@microwrks.com, wwii-l@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu, >marhst-l@post.queensu.ca
>Subject: Support ship… (fwd)
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>From: BWV_WIESBADEN@t-online.de (Tim Lanzendoerfer)
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>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>Reply-To: mahan@microworks.net
>
>Another request from the webpages…I wonder how I can build a >webpage and not
>be able to help with these requests…as an aside, does anybody know >why Jane’s
>”Warships of World War II” does not list the Virgo?
>
> > Dear Tim,
> > I am trying to do some research for my daughter-in-law. Her > father John
> > Saling (now deceased) served on board the USS VIRGO AE30,
> > we have been told that it was a supply (support)ship and it carried
> > mainly ammunition. Her dad told her that when he wasn’t cooking he was a
> > “powder monkey”. I have not been able to find out anything on this
> > vessel. We do know that it was eventually decommissioned and scraped but
> > where or when have no idea.
> > Thought that with all of the other interesting things you have found
> > that you may know something or have an idea of where we could find some
> > information.
> > Thank you for your time and consideration of our request.
> > Laura and Michelle
> >
>Tim Lanzendoerfer | “I have just taken on a great
>Amateur Naval Historian | responsibility. I will do my
>Email: BWV_Wiesbaden@t-online.de | utmost to meet it” – Nimitz
>—————————————————————–
> The United States Navy in the Pacific War 1941 – 1945
> http://www.microworks.net/pacific
> The ships, the men, the battles
>—————————————————————–

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Future Navy Tomahawk and gunnery

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Sat Nov 01 11:34:59 1997
>Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 13:34:47 -0500
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
>Organization: None whatsoever
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
>To: Andrew Toppan ,
> Mahan Naval History Mailing List
>Subject: Future Navy Tomahawk and gunnery
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>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
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>
>On two of the Harpoon naval wargame mailing lists there is discussion
>of future weapons, etc. I provide some information on Land Attack
>Standard out of the 9/97 JANE’S NAVY INTERNATIONAL in an article on the
>future of USN Naval Surface Fire Support (NSFS), and was requested for
>more info on future Tomahawk. Here’s the message I sent based on the
>article, it occurs to me that Tom Robison and Mike Potter might be able
>to add some insights,so ths is going to Mahan list inviting their
>comments. Thanks.
>
>Brooks A Rowlett
>brooksar@indy.net
>
>Paul Candy asked what the JANE’S NAVY INTERNATIONAL article on improving
>fire supprot said about “Tactical Tomahawk”.
>
>”Tomahawk Baseline Improvement Program (TBIP) Single Tomahawk Block IV
>…expected to have multi-mode use for land or sea targets. GPS
>midcourse and terminal imaging infrared (IIR) or millimeter wave (MMW)
>radar. Current inventories of Block II & III would be upgraded to Block
>IV standards. Reprotedly problems have delayed development and force
>elimination of a hard-target penetrating warhead…Navy also.. pushing
>for a quick reaction mission capability for Block III and in-flight
>retargeting for Block IV to improve responsiveness.
>Other initatives include:
>
>*Tomahawk Mobile Attack Capability (TOMTAC) piggybacks on Block IV to
>allow attacking mobile targets (presumably using the in-flight
>retargeting ability – BR)
>*”Tomahawk Stops the Advancing Regiment” (TSTARS), incorporating Army
>smart submunitions to give Tomahawk an ability to attack multiple
>armored vehicles
>*Low cost TLAM (“Cheaphawk”) reducing unit costs by 65 percent but still
>insert new technologies, composites & engine for deployment in 2001
>
>Article also talks about NTACMS (Navy ATACMS) and plans to go to a 5″/62
>gun beginning with DDG-81.
>
>Future gun fire control (etc) may also use developments of AFATDS
>(Advanced Field Artillery Tactical Direction System).
>
>-Brooks A Rowlett
>brooksar@indy.net

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Future Navy Tomahawk and gunnery

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Sat Nov 01 11:34:54 1997
>Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 13:34:31 -0500
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
>Organization: None whatsoever
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
>To: Andrew Toppan ,
> Mahan Naval History Mailing List
>Subject: Future Navy Tomahawk and gunnery
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>Reply-To: mahan@microworks.net
>
>On two of the Harpoon naval wargame mailing lists there is discussion
>of future weapons, etc. I provide some information on Land Attack
>Standard out of the 9/97 JANE’S NAVY INTERNATIONAL in an article on the
>future of USN Naval Surface Fire Support (NSFS), and was requested for
>more info on future Tomahawk. Here’s the message I sent based on the
>article, it occurs to me that Tom Robison and Mike Potter might be able
>to add some insights,so ths is going to Mahan list inviting their
>comments. Thanks.
>
>Brooks A Rowlett
>brooksar@indy.net

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Truk as Gibraltar of the Pacific

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Nov 13 12:31:02 1997
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: Re: Truk as Gibraltar of the Pacific
>Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 19:30:05 GMT
>From: salvin@ocslink.com
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>
>
> > >I’m searching for proofs that Truk was actually called the > Gibraltar of the
> > >Pacific. Some people have told that some island off California got that
> > name,
> > >and I dimly remember a discussion on one list. Can anyone cite > from a book
> > or
> > >webpage or article the use of Truk as Gibraltar of the Pacific?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Tim
> >
> > Funny, I’ve heard the term used to refer to Rabaul. It was such an obvious
> > reference it could have been made unofficially by a number of people. Truk
> > was a nice base ok. Lovely sheltered lagoon and well defended by ground
> > troops. Didn’t serve as well as the real Rock though, did it?
> > Eric Bergerud, 531 Kains Ave, Albany CA 94706, 510-525-093
>
>I can’t give a specific cite to Truk being the `Gibraltar of the >Pacific’, but
>I think it arose from the pre-war propaganda build-up about the `secret’
>Japanese bases in the Pacific. It was commonly believed that the >Japanese were
>turning thier Mandate Islands into fortresses. In actuallity, bases >like Truk
>proved to be adequate bases, but far from fortresses during the war.
>
>IIRC, Prados talks about this in his _Combined Fleet Decoded_.
>
>—-
>
>Steve Alvin
>Department of Social Sciences
>Illinois Valley Community College
>
>salvin@ocslink.com

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Biography

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Tue Nov 11 00:47:03 1997
>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 23:44:14 -0800
>From: Tracy Johnson
>Organization: Answers
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I)
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: Re: Biography
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>Reply-To: mahan@microworks.net
>
>Eric Bergerud wrote:
> > Pity there isn’t some way to give Washington an extra star. I’ll grant that
> > Marshall deserved the fifth, but none of the others were in the same league
> > with father George. Good men all mind you, in their own ways, but I don’t
> > see a Hap Arnold obelisk on the Mall in Washington DC any time soon.
> > Eric Bergerud, 531 Kains Ave, Albany CA 94706, 510-525-0930
>
>Hey, I thought Congress gave Washington that 6th star in the 1960’s or
>1970’s, or is this just urban legend?
>
>–
>Tracy Johnson
>Minister of Propaganda, Justin Thyme Productions
>tjohnson@adnetsol.com
>”Semper Pollus”
> ADC-2239-5531

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Obituary from WW2 list

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Tue Nov 11 09:08:01 1997
>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:07:35 -0500
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
>Organization: None whatsoever
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
>To: Andrew Toppan ,
> “C. Patrick Hreachmack” ,
> Mahan Naval History Mailing List
>Subject: Obituary from WW2 list
>Precendence: bulk
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>
> >
> > Subject:
> > Obituary: Captain George Blundell, CBE
> > Date:
> > Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:49:02 +0200
> > From:
> > Cris Whetton
> >
> >
> > Captain George Blundell, who has died aged 93, had a long and successful
> > career in the torpedo branch of the Navy, but rendered his greatest service
> > to his fellow torpedomen immediately after the Second World War when he was
> > Executive Officer of HMS Vernon, the torpedo and mining school in
> > Portsmouth. It had been decided that the torpedo branch at Vernon and the
> > anti-submarine branch, at HMS Osprey at Portland, should amalgamate on Oct
> > 10 1946 to form a joint Torpedo and Anti-Submarine (TAS) branch. Both
> > branches regarded this prospect with dismay. The anti-submarine
> > specialists, whose expertise had played such a crucial part in winning the
> > Battle of the Atlantic, were particularly resentful. They considered
> > themselves a “small ship” branch, and looked on the torpedomen as mere “big
> > ship” electricians, mainly interested in volts and amps, and lacking the
> > necessary technical training and knowledge.
> > The torpedomen, for their part, were just as proud of their wartime
> > achievements and as jealous of their independence. They also faced a
> > difficult personal choice: whether to join the newly-formed electrical
> > branch, which would certainly increase chances of promotion to senior rank,
> > but would rule out sea-going command. The two branches were eventually
> > driven together by the sledge-hammer personality of Vernon’s Captain, John
> > Hughes-Hallet, but the process was greatly assisted by the good humour and
> > tact of Blundell, who as wardroom mess president provided the perfect
> > buffer between Hughes-Hallet and everybody else.
> > Blundell not only had to deal with > his Captain (who, for instance, as a
> > confirmed bachelor, strongly disapproved of Wrens in Vernon), but he also
> > had to tackle the problems of Vernon itself. The buildings were drab,
> > neglected and bomb-damaged. The roads were in disrepair, and blocked by
> > heaps of dockyard rubbish. There was wartime food rationing. The mess
> > silver, held in a safe in a warehouse which had been bombed and set on
> > fire, had melted into a single ingot. Accommodation had to be provided for
> > training classes, and for the thousands of officers and ratings returning
> > to Vernon from ships and shore establishments all over the world, and from
> > Vernon out-stations around Britain which were being closed. But under
> > Blundell’s urbane leadership matters improved. He knew he was succeeding
> > when the anti-submarine officers stopped loudly proclaiming that Osprey’s
> > wardroom was much better in every way. The new TAS branch was firmly
> > established by the late 1940s, for which much credit must go to George
> > Blundell.
> > George Collett Blundell was born on > May 25 1904 and joined the Navy as a
> > cadet in 1917, going to Osborne and Dartmouth, and then in 1921 to the
> > training ship Thunderer. After service in the destroyer Vidette, the
> > battlecruiser Hood, and the battleship Valiant (a ship he liked so much he
> > named his cocker spaniel after her), he qualified as a torpedo specialist
> > in 1930. He was Torpedo Officer of the cruisers Enterprise in the East
> > Indies, and Sheffield in the Home Fleet. In 1940, he was appointed Torpedo
> > Officer and First Lieutenant of the cruiser Kent in the Mediterranean where
> > she was hard-worked, carrying out shore bombardments, escorting convoys to
> > Malta, and beating off frequent air attacks. “Why is it,” Blundell confided
> > to the diary he kept (illegally in wartime), “that I, a naturally lazy,
> > indolent and quiet-loving fellow should be pitchforked into infernos of
> > hard work and bother?”
> > On Sept 17 1940, after the Italians > had launched their offensive in the
> > Western Desert, Kent and two destroyers were detached from the fleet to
> > carry out a midnight bombardment of the port of Sollum, near the Egyptian
> > border. Kent was bombed and machine-gunned in bright moonlight by Italian
> > aircraft, one of which dropped a torpedo which hit Kent “a tremendous blow
> > aft” wrote Blundell. “The whole ship reeled, then suddenly felt dead, and
> > we could feel on the bridge as if her tail had dropped, a sort of bending,
> > dragging feeling, and the ship wouldn’t steer.” When Blundell went aft, he
> > found there was no power or lighting, a fire raging, many compartments open
> > to the sea, and bodies lying in the passageways. The rudder was jammed 20
> > degrees to starboard. Under Blundell’s direction, power and lighting were
> > restored, bulkheads were shored up, the fire was put out, and a jury rig
> > forced the rudder amidships. Kent was taken in tow and, despite many air
> > raid alarms, reached Alexandria.
> > She had suffered 33 dead, including the Executive Officer. Some bodies
> > were buried at sea, but others, which had dropped through the huge hole in
> > the ship’s bottom, were still being washed ashore days later. The Captain
> > cleared the lower deck and announced that Blundell would now take over as
> > Executive Officer, “and it was quite wonderful and embarrassing,” Blundell
> > wrote, “the way they cheered and clapped”. He was appointed OBE for his
> > work that night.
> > In February 1941, Blundell joined the > battleship Nelson as Torpedo Officer
> > and First Lieutenant, and returned to the Mediterranean later in the year
> > when Nelson was Admiral Sir James Somerville’s flagship in Force H. On Sept
> > 27 1941, escorting the Halberd convoy to Malta, Nelson was hit forward by
> > an aerial torpedo – “there was a horrid underwater thud, the whole bow rose
> > and quivered, and the ship shook itself like a mighty animal.” Once again,
> > Blundell went into action, to restore power and lighting, stop flooding and
> > shore up bulkheads. All the food stores forward, and the cold rooms
> > containing meat, cheese and butter, were flooded. “I felt heartbroken,”
> > Blundell said, “about my 10lb Cape Town cheese, husbanded all these months
> > in the cold room, waiting for the day I go on leave.” Docking in Gibraltar
> > revealed that Nelson had a 40 ft-long hole in her hull. The compartment
> > where the torpedoes were stored had taken the full force of the explosion
> > and was a shambles.
> > Blundell had almost given up hopes of > promotion, but in June 1942 he was,
> > to everybody’s delight, promoted to Commander. In an unusual move, he was
> > reappointed to Nelson as Executive Officer. After the Pedestal convoy to
> > Malta in August 1942, he was serving in her for the Torch landings in north
> > Africa in November, the landings in Sicily in July 1943 and at Salerno in
> > September, and the signing of the Italian surrender on board the same
> > month. He was mentioned in despatches for his service in Nelson.
> > After the war, Blundell was promoted to Captain in 1947, commanded
> > Rifleman and her minesweeping flotilla from 1948 to 1950, and HMS Defiance,
> > the torpedo school in Devonport, from 1950 to 1952. His last appointment
> > before he retired in 1958 was as Director of Naval Recruiting. He was
> > appointed CBE in 1957.
> > In retirement he was an extremely > successful warden of the conference
> > centre at Goldicote House, Stratford-upon-Avon, which he ran as though it
> > were a ship, calling his office “the cuddy” (Captain’s cabin) and the
> > dining room “the wardrobe mess”.
> > In 1970, he was furious when the > local council did not empty his dustbin
> > for nine weeks, although his rates had quadrupled in six years. So he
> > deducted £14 from his rates “for inefficiency”. In court, replying to a
> > council application for a distress warrant to recover the money, he told
> > Stratford magistrates: “I don’t understand a distress warrant. Only a
> > distress signal.” He thought it disgraceful that the council should summon
> > “a harmless old man like myself”, but was ordered to pay the £14.
> > Extracts from his diaries were used > in The Imperial War Museum Book of the
> > War at Sea: the Royal Navy in the Second World War, edited by Julian
> > Thompson, and published last year. Blundell married, in 1945, Marcelle
> > Avril; they had two sons and a daughter.

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Thanks!

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Tue Nov 11 12:40:02 1997
>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:52:24 +0200
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: Re: Thanks!
>X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.0
>X-Sender: 0611603955-0001@t-online.de (Silvia Lanzendoerfer)
>From: BWV_WIESBADEN@t-online.de (Tim Lanzendoerfer)
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>Reply-To: mahan@microworks.net
>
> > And a question to Tim: Do you know from what date the > Bundeswehr dates
> > its existence? Are there regiments that trace lineage back through
> > WWII and I to Prussian and other armies? (I could call the German
> > Army Liasion Officer here at Fort Huachuca, but asking on the list is
> > more fun.)
>
>It is 12 November 1956, the 201st birthday of General Scharnhorst. I do not
>believe there are any regiments with a true lineage back into the “good old
>days”. This is especially so since we would never have used regimental honors
>(if there were any) of Nazi-Germany, and I’d say none of the Kaiser’s Army
>either. The Bundeswehr is also not structured like the Prussian Army or the
>British Army (i.e. naming the regiments instead of pure numerical system),
>and also partly because most of Prussia was in East Germany.
>Nevertheless, you’d better ask the liasion officer, just to correct >my mistakes
>:)
>
>Tim Lanzendoerfer | “I have just taken on a great
>Amateur Naval Historian | responsibility. I will do my
>Email: BWV_Wiesbaden@t-online.de | utmost to meet it” – Nimitz
>—————————————————————–
> The United States Navy in the Pacific War 1941 – 1945
> http://www.microworks.net/pacific
> The ships, the men, the battles
>—————————————————————–

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