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>Nigerian naval bombardment of Freetown kills at least 10, Red Cross says
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Copyright (c) 1997 Nando.net
>Copyright (c) 1997 Agence France-Presse
>
>FREETOWN (June 2, 1997 12:49 p.m. EDT) – The Nigerian naval bombardment
>of Freetown on Monday morning killed at least 10 people, a Red Cross
>worker told AFP, while witnesses said the dead included a two-year-old
>child.
>
>Some 20 people were injured in the bombardment, witnesses said.
>
>”It was a pathetic sight as many lay crying for first aid. We did our
>best and counted over 10 corpses both from the barracks and other sites
>in the vicinity,” said a Red Cross worker at the scene of the shelling.
>
>The 10 died when shells fired by a Nigerian vessel anchored in an
>estuary off the coast of Freetown early Monday morning landed at various
>sites, including a military barracks housing women and children,
>witnesses said.
>
>”A shell fell on the roof of one of the buildings, instantly killing a
>two-year-old child and injuring two others,” one witness said.
>
>”The barracks was in a commotion. It seemed that it was targeted as four
>to five other shells fell into the barracks. There were children
>screaming and mothers rushing barefooted with children on their backs,”
>another witness told AFP.
>
>Ambulances took the injured to the main hospital in the capital, where
>an AFP correspondent saw five bodies, victims of the shelling.
>
>”We are battling to save the lives of some of those who were brought in.
>Some had excessive bleeding from shrapnel wounds mainly to the head and
>body, ” said a doctor at the hospital.
>
>News of the fatalities spread through the city as hundreds of
>Freetowners took to the streets, to demonstrate against what is seen as
>a Nigerian attempt to force the junta, which seized power here May 25 to
>hand control of the country back to ousted civilian elected President
>Ahmad Tejan Kabbah.
>
>Kabbah fled to Guinea during the coup.
>
>The demonstrators shouted “Down with Nigeria” and “We shall fight to the
>death to resist Nigeria’s occupation forces.”
>
>Hundreds of Nigerian peacekeeping troops flooded into Sierra Leone after
>the coup.
>
>Dozens of former rebel combatants, now all allied with the regular army,
>stood and fired volleys of shots in the air as the demonstrators chanted
>themselves into a frenzy.
>
>Sierra Leoneans in the streets spoke in anger when asked what they
>thought of the Nigerian attack.
>
>”Their action has now ended the friendly relationship, that has existed
>between the two countries.” said a businessman.
>
>An attempt to orchestrate a similar demonstration in the southern city
>of Bo failed when most residents elected to stay indoors, witnesses
>there said.
>
>Meanwhile, central Freetown was calm mid-afternoon Monday and Nigerian
>troops were seen patrolling the streets.
>
>Despite the presence of scores of Sierra Leonean troops also in downtown
>streets, no clashes were reported.
>
> -= END OF MESSAGE =-
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>Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 19:04:15 -0500
>Subject: Re: [Fwd: Russian sub sinks.]
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>On 2 Jun 97 at 22:45, Brooks A Rowlett wrote:
>
> > News from an Eastern Europe news service….. another Russian sub sank at
> > mooring…..
>
>Thanks for the clipping service Brooks, although there is very small >comfort in
>the knowledge that the vessel will be raised when you know that the >seabed off
>Kamchatka is littered with not only spent fuel, but entire reactors.
>
>Warm regards,
>
>James
>In the Heart of the Pine Barrens 39 54 03 N, 74 49 26 W
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>From: Brooks A Rowlett
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> “mahan@microwrks.com”
>Subject: Book Review CALL FOR FIRE
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>The following Book review appeared on the MILHST mailing list (Military
>History) and is forwarded for your interest.
>
>-Brooks
>
>——————————
>
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:24:47 +0000
>From: “LT Robert A. Adamcik”
>Subject: Book Review: _Call for Fire_ (Long)
>
>Greetings,
>
> As promised, here is my review of _Call for Fire_.
>
>
>
> _Call for Fire: Sea Combat in the Falklands and Gulf War_
> By Captain Chris Craig, RN (ret.)
> Forward by General Sir Peter de la Billiere
> ISBN 0-7195-5453-5
>
> _Call for Fire_ is an outstanding, first hand account of
>British naval combat during the latter half of the century. Unlike
>Admiral Woodward’s _One Hundred Days_, _Call for Fire_ stays away
>from the biographical, and, instead, starts right into the action.
>
> In part one, CAPT Craig starts his account in the early morning
>of 02 April, 1982, the day of the Argentine invasion and, ironically
>enough, the day before he was to relinquish his command of his ship,
>HMS ALACRITY. From there, the author goes right into the details of
>fitting out his ship, the transit south with the HMS HERMES and
>INVINCIBLE, and the battle groups’ arrival in the Falkland IS area.
>
> For obvious reasons, CAPT Craig primarily focuses on the
>actions taken by his ship. Other key events, the sinking of the
>BELGRANO and SHEFFIELD for example, are mentioned only in passing.
>Using ALACRITY’s logs as source, CAPT Craig gives detailed accounts
>of his ship’s actions, such as the naval bombardment of Argentine
>positions around Port Stanley, and, most importantly, ALACRITY’s
>engagement of the Argentine naval transport ISLA DE LOS ESTADOS,
>the only ship-to-ship gun engagement of the entire war. He also pays
>special attention to the sinking of ALACRITY’s sister ships HMS ARDENT
>and ANTELOPE.
>
> The rest of part one follows the same way, until ALACRITY is
>sent home (and after CAPT Craig utters the quote I use as my sig
>line) in early June, 1982. Overall, part one is an excellent telling
>of what a ship’s Commanding Officer thinks as he sends his ship into
>harms way.
>
> Part two takes on a different tone as CAPT Craig, in December
>1990, is ordered in as Commodore in charge of all Royal Navy ships
>participating in Operation Desert Shield. His focus is now a much
>broader account of RN operations, specifically counter-mine
>operations, which was the primary mission of most of the RN assets in
>the Arabian Gulf before, during, and after the war. Other, non-mine
>warfare incidents chronicled are the sinking of several Iraqi patrol
>boats by RN Lynx helicopters, and the downing of an Iraqi Silkworm
>missile, shot at the USS MISSOURI, by the HMS GLOUCESTER.
>
> I greatly enjoyed this book. CAPT Craig writing style is very
>easy to read, and it is not dry at all. I highly recommend it for any
>serious scholars of either the Falklands or Gulf wars.
>
>
>
>
> Bob Adamcik
> LT USN
> prospective operations officer
> USS Merrimack (AO-179)
>
>”I am proposing to stay and fight until the bloody barrel drops off.”
>
> -CDR Christopher Craig, RN
> CO, HMS ALACRITY
> 07 June 1982
> off the Falklands IS.
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>From: Brooks A Rowlett
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>In addition to the RN ships, a question on the WW2 list has led to me
>positng there a list of major French warhisp of WWII. It should be
>noted that the following major French warships had refits in the US in
>1943-44:
>
>Battleship RICHILIEU
>Carrier BEARN (to aircraft transport)
>heavy cruisers DUQUESNE and TOURVILLE
>CL’s EMILE BERTIN, GLOIRE, MONTCALM, and GEORGES LEYGUES
>Training CL JEANNE D”ARC
>LE FANTASQUE class destroyers (nameship), LE TERRIBLE, and LE MALIN.
>
>Most of these were ships at Martinique or Dakar after the fall of
>France.
>
>-Brooks
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>Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 10:52:09 -0700
>From: Mike Potter
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>North Korean patrol boat fires at South Korean ship
>___________________________________________________
>Copyright (c) 1997 Nando.net
>Copyright (c) 1997 The Associated Press
>
>SEOUL, South Korea (June 5, 1997 10:43 a.m. EDT) — A North Korean
>patrol boat violated the nautical border Thursday and fired at a South
>Korean navy ship before retreating to the North, South Korea said.
>
>No casualties were reported in the intrusion, the most serious since a
>North Korean submarine carrying 26 armed spies and crewmen ran aground
>off South Korea’s east coast in September. That incident raised tensions
>between the two Koreas, which are still technically at war.
>
>The Defense Ministry said the North Korean ship crossed into South
>Korea’s territorial waters on the west coast at about 1:30 p.m. local
>time, or 12:30 a.m. EDT, Thursday and fired three rounds from a naval
>gun at a South Korean patrol boat.
>
>The South Korean high-speed gunboat responded with two shots of its own,
>the ministry said. Two other South Korean gunboats had joined it just
>after the North Korean ship crossed over.
>
>The confrontation continued for an hour before the North Korean ship
>sailed back into its own waters, the ministry said.
>
>The ministry initially said there were three North Korean boats.
>
>Because the North Korean ship was escorting fishing boats, the intrusion
>appeared to be unintentional, but the ministry said it would
>investigate.
>
>The Defense Ministry said it was not increasing the South Korean armed
>forces’ level of alertness because of the incident.
>
>But South Korea considered it serious enough to convene an emergency
>meeting of security-related Cabinet ministers, the national news agency
>Yonhap reported. Kwon’s office would not confirm the report.
>
>The government said it will protest the North’s intrusion to the U.N.
>Armistice Commission that monitors the shaky Korean truce that ended the
>1950-53 Korean War.
>
>In last fall’s manhunt by South Korean soldiers, 24 North Koreans were
>killed or found dead. Eleven South Korean soldiers and civilians were
>also killed. One sailor was captured, and another intruder was listed as
>missing.
>
>North Korean patrol ships have violated South Korean waters several
>times in the past year but Thursday’s incident was the first time
>northern ships had fired at their South Korean enemies.
>
>The border between the Koreas is the world’s most heavily armed, with
>nearly 2 million troops standing guard on both sides.
>
>–
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>To: mahan@microwrks.com, riddleb@fhu.disa.mil (“Bill Riddle”)
>Subject: Re: Re[2]: Refits of RN ships in USA
>Date: Thu, 05 Jun 97 19:52:31 GMT
>From: salvin@ocslink.com
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>
>
> > Let me then ask the obvious. What service/action did these French
> > ships see?
> >
> > Were any of these ships in North Africa when the Torch landings took
> > place? In other words, were they Vichy up to that point?
> >
> > Bill Riddle
> >
> >
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > In addition to the RN ships, a question on the WW2 list has led to me
> > positng there a list of major French warhisp of WWII. It should be
> > noted that the following major French warships had refits in the US in
> > 1943-44:
> >
> > Battleship RICHILIEU
> Transfered incomplete to Dakar on 18 June 40. Attacked there by > FAA aircraft
>on 8 July and damaged by a torpedo hit. 25 September 40 engaged in >a gunbattle
>while still in the harbor with the _Resolution_ during the aborted >British/Free
>French invasion of Dakar. After the invasion of North Africa she >went over to
>the Free French and was finally completed in New York Naval Yard from Feb to
>August, 1943. Afterwhich she operated for a short time in the North Atlantic
>escorting British carrier strikes against Norway. In March, 1944 she was
>tranfered to the British Eastern Fleet and spent the rest of the war >operating
>agianst the Japanese.
>_Massachusetts_.>
> > Carrier BEARN (to aircraft transport)
>De-militarized in Martinique until July, 1943. Then transfered to >New Orleans
>for conversion to a aircraft transport
> >
> > heavy cruisers DUQUESNE and TOURVILLE
>
>Both heavy cruisers were transfered to Force X based at Alexandria in early
>1940. After the fall of France they were interned until June 1943.
>Remobilized as Free French forces, they sailed around the Cape for >Dakar in and
>were engaged in anti-blockade running duty. In June of 1944 the _Tourville_
>was taken out of service for refitting and saw no more operational service
>during the war. The _Duquesne_ was attached to Group Lorraine of the French
>Naval Task Force in Dec. 1944 and took part in bombardment of >isoltated German
>fortresses on the French coast.
> > CL’s EMILE BERTIN, GLOIRE, MONTCALM, and GEORGES LEYGUES
>The _Emile Bertin_ was in Halifax when France fell and left that port for
>Martinique. She was de-militarized in 1942 and was not operational >again until
>August 1943 when she was transfered to Philadelphia for refit. She supported
>the landings in Southern France in August, 1944.
>
>The other three cruisers were at Dakar and all except the _Gloire_ helped to
>defend the port when it was attacked in September 1940. The _Gloire_ was
>undergoing repairs in Casablanca, and wouldn’t return until after >the attack.
>After coming under Free French Control in 1943 and being refitted in the US,
>the _Gloire_ operated in the Med, supporting the Anzio invasion and later the
>Invasion of Southern France. Her sisters, after their refits, >operated out of
>Dakar for a time and then transfered to Western U. S. Task Force and supplied
>gunfire support during the Normandy landings.
> >
> > Training CL JEANNE D”ARC
>
>Like the _Emile Bertin_ she was in Halifax when France fell and she was
>transfered to the Caribbean. She `showed the flag’ until May, 1942 when she
>was de-militarized under U. S. pressure. In September, 1943 she sailed to
>North Africa, was re-militarized and served as a transport until >October, 1944
>when she took part in bombardment missions in the Med. (Note: according to
>Whitley’s _Cruisers of World War II_, she was to be re-fitted in 1943 in
>Philadelphia, but this was canceled and she went to Casablanca instead)
> > LE FANTASQUE class destroyers (nameship), LE TERRIBLE, and LE MALIN.
>
>_Le Fantasque_ & _Le Malin_ were at Dakar and participated in defending the
>port in Sept, 1940. _Le Terrible_ was at Toulon. After joining the Free
>French, all served in the Atlantic or Med, usually escorting convoys >or as part
>of an escort carrier hunter group.
> >
> > Most of these were ships at Martinique or Dakar after the fall of
> > France.
> >
> > -Brooks
> >
> >
> >
>
>—-
>
>Steve Alvin
>Department of Social Sciences
>Illinois Central College
>
>salvin@ocslink.com
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>Date: Fri, 6 Jun 97 12:23:51 EDT
>From: JOHN SZALAY
>X-To: “mahan@microwrks.com”
>To: mahan@microwrks.com
>Subject: Missouri homeport dispute
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>
>
>In a copyrighted story in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, There is a dispute
>being waged over the the future homeport of the Battleship Missouri.
>The ship is scheduled to be towed to Pearl Harbor, arriving in time
>for May 1998.
> The office of U.S. Rep Norm Dicks D-Wash has asked the Navy to review
>the selection for the homeport saying Bremerton should have won
>the right to have the Battleship over Hawaii. In a letter to Navy Sec
>John Dalton, the Rep asked the Sec to re-open the selection process,
>this time using an independent panel to make the choice.
>Sen Inouye of Hawaii sez the BB is going to Hawaii. Period.
>
>The Missouri will be displayed on Battleship row on Ford island
>along with the Arizona Memorial, the Bowfin submarine museum.
>
>
> http://starbulletin.com/today/news/index.html
>
> June 5 1997 issue.
>————————————————————————-
>
> John Szalay
> jpszalay@tacl.dnet.ge.com
From
>From: John Snyder
>Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:44:18 -0700
>To: mahan@microwrks.com
>Subject: Re: Refits of RN ships in USA
>Organization: MacNexus, the Sacramento Macintosh User Group
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>Brooks Rowlett wrote:
>
>positng there a list of major French warhisp of WWII. It should be
>noted that the following major French warships had refits in the US in
>1943-44:
>
>Battleship RICHILIEU
>Carrier BEARN (to aircraft transport)
>heavy cruisers DUQUESNE and TOURVILLE
>CL’s EMILE BERTIN, GLOIRE, MONTCALM, and GEORGES LEYGUES
>Training CL JEANNE D”ARC
>LE FANTASQUE class destroyers (nameship), LE TERRIBLE, and LE MALIN.>>
>
>SNIP
>
>GLOIRE emerged from her refit painted in the USN’s zebra-stripe “Adaptor”
>camouflage, a scheme normally associated with USN PTs.
>
>John Snyder
>John_Snyder@bbs.macnexus.org
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>Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 09:50:52 -0700
>From: Mike Potter
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>Organization: Artecon, Inc.
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>Subject: Re: Refits of RN Ships in USA/Drydocks
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>Does anyone know of a source for a photograph of HMS =Valiant= in this
>drydock:
>
>Late in the war at Trincomalee, Ceylon, the CO of the French battleship
>=Richelieu= declined to have his ship raised on one of the new Indian
>drydocks. He suspected it was weak. Instead HMS =Valiant= became the
>drydock’s first battleship customer. Upon lifting her the drydock broke
>up, badly damaging =Valiant= and terminating her operational career.
>
> > By this time the RN had lost Singapore, so AFD 5 was the only drydock
> > able to take a British BB between Gibraltar and Esquimalt, going
> > eastabout. A programme of dock building was started with new graving
> > docks at Cape Town and Sydney, and two floating docks being built in
> > India, all BB size.
>
>–
>Michael C. Potter, Mgr, TelCo/Govt Programs mike.potter@artecon.com
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